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LU wrote: Can we push Maxon to make Picture View do things as smart as CentiLeo ^^

Maxon has very smart developers and they develop the PV system considering their goals. CentiLeo optimize the processing quite well. I think we will go further in the future with a Standalone application.

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3Deoskill wrote: Why does the image manager need such a long preparation time for huge scenes, whereas the CentiLeo IPR needs zero preparation time. Why can't this technique also be used for rendering in the Picture Manager? I don't really understand. Or why can't you perhaps offer a similar mode similar to that in the CentiLeo IPR. Sorry if this is a stupid question

The Picture Viewer render is the render and scene preparation made by Cinema 4D. It's needed to copy and evaluate the entire scene as it is including all objects, expressions, tags and etc. While in CentiLeo IPR we also do this, but very often it's done over time while we manage the scene. Also for IPR we usually change camera, materials and light sources and see immediate result. But for PV we need to re-evaluate everything from scratch for each frame.

You may read the article about Final render mode in CentiLeo IPR for interest:
https://centileo.com/docs/index.php?COURSE_ID=3&LESSON_ID=70&LESSON_PATH=17.70
https://centileo.com/docs/index.php?COURSE_ID=3&LESSON_ID=39&LESSON_PATH=17.39#fingeo

Hi Albagli, welcome here! I am trying to develop a converter from Redshift node materials. This may help.
Also we will make the tools like you mention to simplify transition to CentiLeo.

Baking should help during animation. There is also a general baking in Cinema. This is quite important for many dynamic situations.

For motion blur we don't collect the positions from the frame to use them in the next frame. But instead in the currently computed frame we make the step to the previous frame evaluating the scene with tags and expressions and collect the positions from that. Maybe I will reconsider this order

Also if you send a scene file + your plugin to me this may help to investigate the issue, that would be cool

It looks that I don't get what's wrong and choppy based on this video But it's night now
Could you please enable the deformation motion blur for camera and for object (in CentiLeo Object Tag)?
See here how to setup https://centileo.com/docs/index.php?COURSE_ID=3&LESSON_ID=97&LESSON_PATH=17.97

Hi LU, yes there is a chance to do this

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3Deoskill wrote: I mean Cinema 4D users have now Redshift included and they think twice before they invest in another RenderEngine.

Yes, and for that reason CentiLeo is faster than Redshift, and we have geometry streaming technology for huge scenes that is a lot faster than they. More and more features are added, and also there will be VDB. There are not to many things to accomplish. So, there will good advantages to compete.

Hi Jiv! I know this technique. Will need to understand how usefull is it for real projects and then will do it in the future versions.

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3Deoskill wrote: you mentioned a commercial version after implementation of VDB rendering. How much will this commercial version of CentiLeo cost. Hopefully it will not be a subscription thing

I was always talking that VDB support will be done AFTER commercial version launch. So commercial version will start, then VDB implementation and next, next next. All of that should happen soon.
For example the Standalone version is also in development at the moment and it will be very usefull where you can export the scene from C4D and continue some lighting & shading work in a standalone CentiLeo app.

The price will be competitive vs the market. Why you don't like the subscription model? Maybe need handling both permanent and subsciption?

Hi 3Deoskill and welcome here! Please, can you drop a video screencast that shows evidently how it freezes the Cinema 4D? The minimal scene project file may help too. Also it would be interesting to know your PC specs.

Does it freeze forever or stops being frozen after some time?
As for IPR and PV they don't work simultaneously. The PV has more priority, so we pause the IPR, then PV makes it job and after that the IPR launch from scratch reloading the scene.

Threading... CentiLeo and it's plugin is very multi-threaded. But it was bugfixed a lot, and I don't know for myself any significant operational issues. I also have R23 version still available and can launch projects from there.

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Caetano3Dsigner wrote: Yes, the plugin is in the correct folder (the path is ok). But nothing apear in the node editor.

Please check how to install it correctly, I have recorded the steps on the Youtube video, make sure you don't miss something :
https://youtu.be/5CSpHjMrBKI

Also you may try to refresh the cache of nodes and other cached Cinema 4D items. Just remove the preferences folder, see the link below. This cache will be recreated on the next Cinema 4D launch, you will need to re-login with your account password when Cinema 4D will request for.

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Caetano3Dsigner wrote: My Node editor does not show the presets. I click on the + tab and type color or some other preset, but nothing appears. My version is the latest and I use C4D 2023. It only says "No results found". The firewall is ok. Nothing blocked. What happens?

In the node editor menu you have to see the following picture:


Also make sure you have these files in the plugins folder, see the path in address bar.


Shortly the plugin should be correctly unpacked, the WinRAR archivator software is a good option for this.

Hi Giorgio, it's more advanced with bugfixes on the way - 0.698 on Download page. See the direct link https://centileo.com/~downloadC4D069

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Eric Chen wrote: Preview; yours has 2 balls, mine only shows 1 ball

It can be different version of Cinema 4D. The image from your part is 2025, and the one in the Manual is 2023 or 24

Where is the difference? The language?

Hi Eric, but what do you want to do with this preview? What's the question?

Hi Eric and welcome here!
The displacement node is in the list of all nodes under the category Material Generator:


Also don't forget to setup CentiLeo Object Tag with enabled Displacement mapping option for your object:
https://centileo.com/docs/index.php?COURSE_ID=3&LESSON_ID=61&LESSON_PATH=17.61

Hi Giorgio, welcome here and thank you! Sure there are huge plans to make a version for Houdini. This will be the right host app for CentiLeo!

It was very interesting to investigate for the issue in the engine.

And I also hope the old good competition between Juve and Inter will rise again! Competition is always more interesting than one beating another one with a huge advantage.